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Old 01-13-2021, 04:25 AM
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Default Re: Bareboat draw weights?

“Normally, I have a 10 yard span across a target.“
Hank, I’m not sure what you mean by “span across target.”
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Old 01-13-2021, 06:39 AM
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TOm I think he means if he aims at center mass it's 10 yards from missing over top to shooting under it.
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Old 01-13-2021, 07:21 AM
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Default Re: Bareboat draw weights?

Like each half of the target represents 5 yards. Of course, as you get further back, the target gets smaller so you would get less of an effect.
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Old 01-13-2021, 05:04 PM
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I shoot 45# +/- a few pounds, have about 13 bows and they all differ a bit.
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Old 01-13-2021, 06:43 PM
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Default Re: Bareboat draw weights?

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“Normally, I have a 10 yard span across a target.“
Hank, I’m not sure what you mean by “span across target.”
What I mean is that moving my arrow point from the center to the top of the target face is a 5 yard increase in distance. Moving it to the bottom is a 5 yard decrease. This works most the time since the targets get bigger as the shot gets longer. NFAA field has some interesting overlaps though, where you shoot multiple sized targets for the same distance. For these, I visualize the target size that is most common for the distance.
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Old 01-14-2021, 01:20 AM
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WA3D most were in that 40# range, Swedish archer Fredrik Lundmark was 52# but he has a +31" draw length.

In WA3D worlds in France myself Fredrik and an Italian had a shoot off to make the 8 cut, it was a 30m shot and many of the spectators were to the side, afterwards a Russian archer said my arrow was very flat trajectory compared to the others, I was 40# OTF, considering Fredrik's setup I was quite surprised.

My setup was Vanquish riser, 42# Kaya K7's and 3DHV arrows. These arrows are very light and can be twitchy if my form is off but that week was a good week for me and I was very happy with my Form/Release, just one bad moment during semi finals were I just couldn't find my grove but found it again during finals.

Draw weight is important only in respect of physical control i.e. 52# would never work for me, a well tuned and forgiving setup really is key to barebow success in my opinion. Barebow is interesting because some great archers have made their setups a success in so many different ways that there is no set in stone solution, it all adds to the fascination of Barebow.
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Old 01-14-2021, 09:23 AM
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Default Re: Bareboat draw weights?

I had a pretty fast setup that took fairly large vanes to be forgiving (70mm kurly) which totally fell apart once beyond WA3D distances especially if there was any wind.
Super light arrows with feathers can be like that too.

I have a theory that higher draw weights don't feel as difficult if they are spread over a longer draw length. As someone with a modest draw length I've struggled to really control higher draw weights so I've always focused on reducing arrow weight which has some real disadvantages.
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Old 01-14-2021, 11:23 AM
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I like shooting between #35 and #40. My rig is currently at #39 which puts my point-on at about 48yds. (Gillo G1, Uukha VX1000, VAP's). This is a great middle ground for Field shooting... Crawls aren't too big for close work and not too many "reverse gapping" calculations for anything further. I could lower my anchor by a finger for a further PO but I'm comfy as is.
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Old 01-14-2021, 11:47 AM
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As someone with a modest draw length I've struggled to really control higher draw weights so I've always focused on reducing arrow weight which has some real disadvantages.
The Vanquish had a slight aggressive geometry and the K7's were shorts, light 3DHV's and my short draw gave me a pretty fast setup. My off days could be bad where I struggled with grouping but I just worked harder on my release and cut down those off days, I did feel I was right on the edge of what's considered a stable setup but it worked for me.

The Gillo GT riser feels very soft in comparison, still fun but very different. Wish I could still draw 40#, even 28# is now becoming a struggle.
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Old 01-14-2021, 02:05 PM
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I'd like to try short limbs on a 27" riser one of these days.
Currently trying some medium Hex6.5 on a 27" at max preload and they are shooting really well. Noticeably different to a 25".
That extra bit of BH and overall length is quite noticeable.
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Old 01-14-2021, 07:36 PM
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I shoot 45# +/- a few pounds, have about 13 bows and they all differ a bit.
Only one competition bow here.
For 3d, WA Field, target and indoor
23"CXT 32#EX Powers - short draw archer- gives about 26# otf
60/900 round requires split fingers for the 60m, otherwise stringwalk.
Our 3d in Australia follows IBO unknown(RU) so 30yd/27.4m max.
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Old 01-22-2021, 12:41 PM
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30# all around
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