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Old 05-22-2020, 12:49 PM
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Default Looking for suggestions on rest and plunger for barebow

We started our WA field league at our club recently and I would like to get the most out of my set up. I have a 23" Hoyt Matrix riser with short 40lb Ultimate Pro limbs, my DL is 26", arrows are full length Platinum Plus 1913 with 64 gr. nibbs. Fingers. I am getting accustomed to the meter distances...under duress.

I presently have a KAP magnet rest and an unlabeled plunger. I am looking for some suggestions on rests and plungers. I have "0" experience with this type of combination, so right now I am winging it!

Last time I did field I used my 25" Hoyt Avalon riser with a springy rest, I was considering going back to that rest. Would there be any advantage to doing this, or would I be better off picking up a new rest and plunger? I only have one threaded hole in the riser. I may put in another one to accommodate a bolt on rest.

Thank you for any helpful advice!

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Old 05-22-2020, 07:45 PM
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Rick, if you're not string walking, that rest should work fine. As for the plunger, as long as it operates smoothly and you have a few different springs to tune with, it should be okay for your purposes. Or you can get a Beiter and know that you have the best. Buy once, cry once!

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Old 05-22-2020, 09:21 PM
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There are two types of plungers: lock down and graduated. For standard shooting, a lock down is great. Possibly the best is the Shibuya DX. It works great and it won't break the bank. You lock it down by tightening a set screw, though, I have had issues with the set screws coming loose, so I keep extras around. The gold standard for an adjustable graduated plunger is the Beiter. These are great no matter what you are doing, but they are over $100. These work really well when you are stringwalking and want to change plunger settings with crawls, or just tune on the fly to move your arrows to the center line. I have tried a few other high end plungers, such as the Spigarelli and the AAE, and they do not come close to a Beiter. I have relegated them to my compound finger bows. As far as rest, you have bolt on and stick on. Both are fine. An AAE Champion II is great for a stick on. It has a heavy wire that stands up to stringwalking and other rigors. If you are not stringwalking there are a number of rests with light wires. I use ARE Magnetic rests on my Olympic bow. There are many options and most are fine. For bolt on the AAE Freeflyte works well. I used the Elite version but the standard is perfectly okay. Spigarelli also makes a good one. For stringwalking the Gabriel BiDrop drop away rest will help reduce rest wire arrow bounce. I really like using Beiters. If I am a little off center line I can adjust the plunger during practice ends to help compensate. You can lock them down, but I keep mine free so I can move it. It stays put.
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Old 05-22-2020, 10:22 PM
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Default Re: Looking for suggestions on rest and plunger for barebow

I second the AAE Free Flyte.

For plungers I'm quite happy with the Spigarelli Securi-button. Its about 60% of the cost of the Beiter.
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Old 05-23-2020, 06:44 AM
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Default Re: Looking for suggestions on rest and plunger for barebow

Spigarelli ZT rest and Beiter plunger is the way to go for string walking and face walking.

For non-click-adjustable plunger, AAE Master or Shibuya DX.

For less expensive version of the Spig rest, Cartel Hunter 301 recurve rest is nearly identical and uses the same replacement wires.
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Old 05-23-2020, 08:46 AM
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Default Re: Looking for suggestions on rest and plunger for barebow

The Shibuya Ultima rest and DX plunger have worked great for me. One thing to note is that the hole for the plunger to go through does not fit all plungers. Perfect fit for the DX plunger, but may be too small for others.

Other favorites are the Spigarelli Click Button plunger, AAE Champion II rest, and AAE Free Flyte rest.

The springy works great but just make sure you check for fletching clearance if youre using vanes.
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Old 05-23-2020, 11:19 AM
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I'm shooting a Beiter and a Spig ZT. If I'm not mistaken the ZT was on Hank's advise.

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Old 05-23-2020, 12:02 PM
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I've had nothing but problems with ZT rests. I'm sure they work for most but you'll never find one on a bow I shoot.
The super cheap WNS version works much better if you want a similar design. The wire isn't as thick (good thing) and the bushing holding it isn't made from easily stripped aluminum. Downside is a little less tight on tolerances (ZT=zero tolerance).
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Old 05-23-2020, 03:10 PM
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*you didn’t ask but:
70gn nibs in full length 2013 have to be in the neighborhood of 5% foc. I don’t know all the details but a lighter overall carbon arrow will still give decent foc with light weight point and gain you 10-30fps in field where it could matter most.
I just fletched up some platinum plus 2013 with 3” barred feathers.
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Old 05-23-2020, 04:37 PM
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Ryan,
Thanks for you observations on my arrow choice, because I realized I entered the wrong spine, they are actually 1913 Platinum Plus shafts with 64 grain Nibbs. I have had good arrow flight with this setup.
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Old 05-23-2020, 07:49 PM
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ZT rest and Beiter have been on numerous bows the past 6-9 years with absolutely NO problems at all.I shoot a lot.
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Default Re: Looking for suggestions on rest and plunger for barebow

What Ive used with good results
Cheapest, with reliability shubia DX and spig zt. From hunting to field and target.
Most expensive beiter and spig Gua.
Have a few beiters, 3dxs 4 zts, 3 spig guas, Just set up a bow for field and its wearing a 20 Oz springy.

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Old 05-23-2020, 10:32 PM
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Any input on the adjustable Spring Rest?
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Old 05-24-2020, 04:12 AM
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My adjustable springy rest is very nice. Much easier to adjust centershot.
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Old 05-24-2020, 04:13 AM
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I bowhunt. Don't shoot competitively so take my opinion with that in mind.

I have a Micro Adjust Springy and like it. I also have some originals that aren't micro adjustable and like them. I won't be paying $52 for another micro when the originals are a fraction of that. It only takes a little longer to adjust the originals to satisfy me.

For bowhunting I find myself moving away from the springy because I have a difficult time keeping the arrow from making noise when I draw it. Not all the time but in some situations. I have used rubber tubing, shrink wrap and fleece on the spring. Fleece is quiet but eventually wears. Shrink wrap doesn't last as long and rubber tubing, while it seems to work best, still make a high-pitched sound if the arrow has any moisture on it, something that I noticed last week while hunting turkeys.

But once they are set, they work very well as far as accuracy is concerned.
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