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Old 12-29-2013, 06:09 PM
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I hate watching most hunting shows, and the Maximum Archery Ambush tour is no exception, but what caught my eye was the Ambush bow is a recurve, so I taped it (so I could FF thru all the crap). It appears this is a new bow by Andy Ross who was making his own line of compound bows. It has a shoot thru metal riser, sight, a whisker biscuit rest (bad idea even on a compound) and he was using a release and perhaps a peep too. Basically it was a compound sans wheels!

There is a thread on AT w/ some pics and the website was supposed to go live in November but hasn't yet. This bow doesn't look appealing at all to me, and in fact it looks cheap. No idea what the limbs are made of. Not sure if this is good or bad, I suppose it's good if it converts more shooters but I'm not sure this would be an actual conversion to traditional, under anyone's definition of tradtional...
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Default Re: Ambush recurve bow by Ross

I've seen some photos of the Ambush recurve. Definitely not my cup of tea, but if it manages to get people into trying a recurve who otherwise wouldn't, then that's alright in my book.
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I hate watching most hunting shows, and the Maximum Archery Ambush tour is no exception, but what caught my eye was the Ambush bow is a recurve, so I taped it (so I could FF thru all the crap). It appears this is a new bow by Andy Ross who was making his own line of compound bows. It has a shoot thru metal riser, sight, a whisker biscuit rest (bad idea even on a compound) and he was using a release and perhaps a peep too. Basically it was a compound sans wheels!

There is a thread on AT w/ some pics and the website was supposed to go live in November but hasn't yet. This bow doesn't look appealing at all to me, and in fact it looks cheap. No idea what the limbs are made of. Not sure if this is good or bad, I suppose it's good if it converts more shooters but I'm not sure this would be an actual conversion to traditional, under anyone's definition of tradtional...
I was under the impression that shoot thru risers was not a thing that worked for finger shooters???
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Default Re: Ambush recurve bow by Ross

I was talking to a guy recently who used a whisker biscuit on his recurve. He said that the whiskers provide sufficient support for arrow parallax. I guess it makes sense. The whiskers will act as springs surrounding the arrow.

Now I own a Sabo SSR which is a shoot through recurve. They started out with V-rests, but many, like mine, were retrofitted with a side rest. Here are a couple of pictures. I was told that this one is a prototype. It looks like the plating was cut by hand.



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Default Re: Ambush recurve bow by Ross

A biscuit rest completely (360 degrees) holds the arrow until the nock passes, so any movement of the bow due to torque or flinching will have a negative effect, unless you can do the exact same thing every time. Plus its usually mounted in the back of the riser, which means any torque will be magnified (like an overdraw setup of past). Most compounds now use a drop away rest, so that after 3-4” the arrow is not in contact with the rest anymore. I’ve wondered how this would work on a recurve. It might work but I would think you’d need more rest support for a longer period of time as the arrow cycles out of the initial paradox motion.
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There's been several threads on AT about that bow. Just my opinion but it seems like a marketing ploy. Like you said, it's basically set up like a compound except it has recurve limbs bolted on. Besides being butt-ugly, it just doesn't seem like it would be a very good bow. It certainly pales in comparison to some of the nice Warf bows I've seen.

I guess it's each to their own but it's certainly not anything I'd be interested in. I think it's designed to look "cool" and marketed to those that don't know any better.
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Bows like this (and this isn't anything new btw) seem to be misguided attempts to keep everything in the same plane as if archer's paradox is somehow to be avoided.
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Hank,

Is that a plastic handle on the Sabo?

Scares me to death to think what would happen to you if that handle were to snap off.

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Default Re: Ambush recurve bow by Ross

I've managed to use a Whisker Biscuit with some degree of success on a recurve before. Was messing around at the local range with some odds and ends left behind and stuck one on a PSE recurve with the reflexed riser (think it was a Diablo). I never bareshaft tuned with one, so I can't really tell how off I was, but it did shoot fletched arrows well enough.
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