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Old 03-14-2012, 07:31 PM
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Default Arrows hitting to the right.....

I have an Excel bow, 30lbs at 29" DL and I'm shooting 1535 Trad GTs. Today all I got at 25yds were arrows to the right. Are the 1535s to weak or was it me when 80% were hitting to the right?
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Old 03-14-2012, 08:49 PM
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Default Re: Arrows hitting to the right.....

Hitting right for a right hander would mean they are flying stiff. I would think that form is the most like culprit since those arrows do not look weak (unless you are a left hander like me). You should make sure you have your basic setup in order such as center shot, nock height, tiller etc.
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Recheck your math, hank "knock"right would indicate stiff. If the "arrow" is going right then it might be weak. If you ARE way underspinened then arrows will usually group erratically/inconsistantly to the left, not a nice little group to the left. Try a bareshaft and compare it to the fletched group. Try dropping point weight a bunch and see what happens. I'm sure hank just had a brain fart (had plenty myself when discussing spines and adjustments etc) but I would still definitely double check the other points he mentioned.
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Default Re: Arrows hitting to the right.....

Knock Left or Tip Right = Weak

Knock Right or Tip Left = Stiff


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Default Re: Arrows hitting to the right.....

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Recheck your math, hank "knock"right would indicate stiff. If the "arrow" is going right then it might be weak. If you ARE way underspinened then arrows will usually group erratically/inconsistantly to the left, not a nice little group to the left. Try a bareshaft and compare it to the fletched group. Try dropping point weight a bunch and see what happens. I'm sure hank just had a brain fart (had plenty myself when discussing spines and adjustments etc) but I would still definitely double check the other points he mentioned.
I found that strange also.....always heard that if the arrows go right they are too wek spined and if they go left to stiff spined.....It could have been a flaw in my set or release so I'm gonna try it again today and see what happens......
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Default Re: Arrows hitting to the right.....

BTW, what arrow is a step up in stiffness or would wraps help to stiffen the arrow up a tad to correct this? I am also using 145gr tips.
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Default Re: Arrows hitting to the right.....

They are way to stiff and you are getting an opposite result. I shoot 15/35 cut to 30"s or should I say full length cause they come at 30"s long. I shoot them out 42-47# bows with 125 to 175 grains of point weight and I draw 29"s as well. I would add quite a bit more point weight and see how they respond. Shawn
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Default Re: Arrows hitting to the right.....

what are you using for a rest ? check your centershot you may need to bring arrow out a bit more away from the riser.
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Default Re: Arrows hitting to the right.....

145gr tip on a 1535 seems like a lot to me but I'm not an expert. I would try something like an 85gr or 100gr and see if it moves the group to the left. It would most likely be too light but would in effect stiffen the arrow.
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Default Re: Arrows hitting to the right.....

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Recheck your math, hank "knock"right would indicate stiff. If the "arrow" is going right then it might be weak. If you ARE way underspinened then arrows will usually group erratically/inconsistantly to the left, not a nice little group to the left. Try a bareshaft and compare it to the fletched group. Try dropping point weight a bunch and see what happens. I'm sure hank just had a brain fart (had plenty myself when discussing spines and adjustments etc) but I would still definitely double check the other points he mentioned.

See below. Yes, I got left/right confused, I am ambidextrous and have to be careful about that. I thought I had been.
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Default Re: Arrows hitting to the right.....

Just stand WAY back.....shoot a bare shaft...see how it FLIES....

Are you using a sight to do this or just looking at it...you maybe pulling the shots actually.

that's why you should just check the actual flight of the arrow down range..the further the better.

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Default Re: Arrows hitting to the right.....

Okay, sorry. I am ambidextrous and right/left confusion issues hit me all the time. I visualized myself shooting right handed instead of left -- something that a non ambidextrous person would not understand. I did not realize my mistake until I thought about the weaker arrows that I had to buy last weekend because my arrows were going right. To quote Adrien Monk, "it is a gift, and a curse". People have learned not to yell "turn left" to me in an emergency, since there is only a 50% chance I would go the right way.
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Default Re: Arrows hitting to the right.....

that arrow is way overspined. add at least a 250gr. point and see what happens......you might wanna look for some .600- .700 spine arrows
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Default Re: Arrows hitting to the right.....

They are way overspined. I shoot those same arrows cut to 28.5" with 50 gr brass inserts and 125 gr points out of 45-50# bows. They really fly nice. I bareshaft mine first to get the set up. Do a bareshaft and if nock is right then it is stiff.
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Default Re: Arrows hitting to the right.....

I agree with others, I shoot that same shaft full length with 100gr tips drawn 29.75" at 45lbs or so and believe they are still a tad stiff out of my bow. See the video I posted on Jerrys walk back challenge and those arrows are flying sideways. 4444 pointed that out, and I need to look into it further. Carbon arrows like to be "pushed" so to speak, and I find companys often under rate them. Throw some point weight on them and see what happens.
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