Draw lenghts for super recurves - TradTalk Forums
TradTalk Forums

Site Sponsors
Log in
User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
Patron Membership
Board Menu
» Help

Go Back   TradTalk Forums > Main Category > TradTalk Main Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-12-2017, 09:26 AM
Oonder Oonder is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Sweden
Posts: 35
Thanks: 27
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Oonder is on a distinguished road
Default Draw lenghts for super recurves

Hi all!
Border has a Recommended DL chart on their website for determining what size of limbs to choose. If i for example want a 19" riser i could choose smalls ( 26-28 reco. DL) ,medium.( 27-29) or longs ( 28-30) . Lets say i have a 28" DL , wish limbs would then be the best choice? Anyone have tried diffrent lengts on the same riser? Also would this chart be representitive for other SR:s like max 4:s?
Thanks!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-12-2017, 09:33 AM
JParanee's Avatar
JParanee JParanee is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 3,629
Thanks: 989
Thanked 2,316 Times in 1,088 Posts
JParanee is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Draw lenghts for super recurves

For your draw length on a 19 inch riser shorts would get a bit more speed but by going to a medium I believe you would get a bit more of a friendlier shooting bow

I really don't like short limbs on any riser unless the person has a very short draw

I do not know if Morrison limbs correlate to Borders charts

I would ask Bob at your draw and with what riser you plan on using what would be the best choice

Opinions my vary
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to JParanee For This Useful Post:
John Archer (04-06-2017), moog5050 (03-12-2017), mwestvang (03-21-2017), Oonder (03-12-2017)
  #3  
Old 03-12-2017, 09:39 AM
wstrayer wstrayer is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: York County, PA
Posts: 914
Thanks: 1
Thanked 129 Times in 112 Posts
wstrayer is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Draw lenghts for super recurves

Yes, I did.
I started with a 17" CH riser and mediums to fit my 28" draw. I found that I preferred the 19" riser and still kept shooting mediums. My draw length is right at 28" with proper anchor.
With 19" riser, Sid recommends shorts for 26-28" draw (28 1/2" max). Mediums are recommended for 27-29" draw (29 1/2" max).
I have both mediums and shorts for my 19" CH. Shorts draw 4# less than the mediums but shot the same arrows 3 fps faster than the mediums. However, you might prefer the feel of the mediums on a 19" riser.
Mediums are now for sale.
__________________
Back to Morrison ILF and TradTech limbs until new CH riser arrives.
Shoot as much poundage as you can with accuracy.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to wstrayer For This Useful Post:
Oonder (03-12-2017)
  #4  
Old 03-12-2017, 09:40 AM
Jinkster's Avatar
Jinkster Jinkster is online now
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: somewhere
Posts: 5,141
Thanks: 3,594
Thanked 1,709 Times in 1,198 Posts
Jinkster is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Draw lenghts for super recurves

Keep this in mind...if you do have a 28" DL?...with SR limbs it's about to get 1/2-3/4"s longer.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-12-2017, 10:06 AM
Oonder Oonder is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Sweden
Posts: 35
Thanks: 27
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Oonder is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Draw lenghts for super recurves

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinkster View Post
Keep this in mind...if you do have a 28" DL?...with SR limbs it's about to get 1/2-3/4"s longer.
Iv read that from multiple sources, i just dont get it though. I have a form bow light enough to overdraw to my shoulder but with my anchor + feateher on the noose im not getting past 28" without colapsing my form. Why would that change with an SR?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-12-2017, 09:45 AM
JParanee's Avatar
JParanee JParanee is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 3,629
Thanks: 989
Thanked 2,316 Times in 1,088 Posts
JParanee is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Draw lenghts for super recurves

I draw 28

On my CH 17 inch riser I shoot mediums and this past year I hunted with a set of longs and liked them very much

I prefer the mediums due to my style of hunting but the longs sure shot sweet

On my 19 inch Tempest I am shooting mediums
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to JParanee For This Useful Post:
Oonder (03-12-2017)
  #7  
Old 03-12-2017, 09:46 AM
Grantmac Grantmac is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 4,879
Thanks: 1,285
Thanked 2,072 Times in 1,441 Posts
Grantmac is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Draw lenghts for super recurves

My experience with them is to go quite a bit longer on the riser then pick the shorter limbs. Otherwise you do all the work and get none of the performance.
__________________
Archery is a process that ends with a result. Once you start to focus on the result (where the shot goes, how big the group is, what your score is, what place you are in) then you loose the capacity to focus on the process.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Grantmac For This Useful Post:
Oonder (03-12-2017), Sam Dunham (03-20-2017)
  #8  
Old 03-20-2017, 11:17 PM
Sam Dunham's Avatar
Sam Dunham Sam Dunham is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 18,161
Thanks: 5,338
Thanked 4,233 Times in 2,611 Posts
Sam Dunham is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Draw lenghts for super recurves

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grantmac View Post
My experience with them is to go quite a bit longer on the riser then pick the shorter limbs. Otherwise you do all the work and get none of the performance.
On everything for me. 25 inch riser I shoot mediums with a 28 1/2 DL.
__________________
Be yourself
Who cares what they say
Be yourself
Who cares
Be it right or wrong
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-12-2017, 09:57 AM
everwood's Avatar
everwood everwood is offline
ryan brodrick
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: nebraska
Posts: 1,932
Thanks: 460
Thanked 581 Times in 412 Posts
everwood is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Draw lenghts for super recurves

your draw length shouldn't change unless you have inconsistent form and/or are very over bowed.
I have shot conventional mediums, longs, border hex5, hex6.5 and hex 7, as well as some longbow limbs, all in the same session. My draw length didn't change. Draw length is YOU not the limb.
All that being said, if your draw length is all over the place, you're overbowed or don't have good consistency in your shot then yes, your draw length might change if you get some lighter, super-smooth limbs.
__________________
Good fun and good shooting,
Ryan B.


Uukha uprolite,hex5 limbs, fiberbow stabs, shibuya sight ,Hoyt super-rest.
Blacktail Columbian longbow

quit fiddling with setting your gap, trying to find the perfect length arrow and adjusting your anchor point. ..just put a sight on the dang thing
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to everwood For This Useful Post:
moog5050 (03-12-2017), Steve (03-21-2017)
  #10  
Old 03-12-2017, 10:11 AM
Oonder Oonder is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Sweden
Posts: 35
Thanks: 27
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Oonder is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Draw lenghts for super recurves

Quote:
Originally Posted by everwood View Post
your draw length shouldn't change unless you have inconsistent form and/or are very over bowed.
I have shot conventional mediums, longs, border hex5, hex6.5 and hex 7, as well as some longbow limbs, all in the same session. My draw length didn't change. Draw length is YOU not the limb.
All that being said, if your draw length is all over the place, you're overbowed or don't have good consistency in your shot then yes, your draw length might change if you get some lighter, super-smooth limbs.
Saw this after i posted a question to Jinkster.

Your post sums up my thinking exactly.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 03-12-2017, 10:43 AM
Ltben Ltben is online now
Ltben
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Archery city
Posts: 52
Thanks: 32
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Ltben is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Draw lenghts for super recurves

My draw is 29'' and just order tempest 19'' with Hex 7.5 and Duncan recommand long limbs set? ?
You idea to that? Hesitate medium ....
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 03-12-2017, 11:47 AM
everwood's Avatar
everwood everwood is offline
ryan brodrick
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: nebraska
Posts: 1,932
Thanks: 460
Thanked 581 Times in 412 Posts
everwood is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Draw lenghts for super recurves

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ltben View Post
My draw is 29'' and just order tempest 19'' with Hex 7.5 and Duncan recommand long limbs set? ?
You idea to that? Hesitate medium ....
As long as you're drawing the MINIMUM I'd go with the longer limb option. You need the hooks to open. If they open with a medium and a long I'd go with the long. This leaves some responsibility on the buyer to get his draw length right. Don't think you're drawing 29" (because you measured it once at the pro shop etc) if when you actually shoot you overdraw to 29" then collapse back to 27" or something like that.
Just giving an example on the draw length. I wasn't referring to you specifically.
__________________
Good fun and good shooting,
Ryan B.


Uukha uprolite,hex5 limbs, fiberbow stabs, shibuya sight ,Hoyt super-rest.
Blacktail Columbian longbow

quit fiddling with setting your gap, trying to find the perfect length arrow and adjusting your anchor point. ..just put a sight on the dang thing
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to everwood For This Useful Post:
JParanee (03-12-2017), Ltben (03-13-2017)
  #13  
Old 03-12-2017, 11:35 AM
moog5050's Avatar
moog5050 moog5050 is online now
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: NY
Posts: 674
Thanks: 159
Thanked 280 Times in 158 Posts
moog5050 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Draw lenghts for super recurves

I don't think your DL should change at all. It's just easier to overdraw.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 03-20-2017, 02:21 PM
Oonder Oonder is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Sweden
Posts: 35
Thanks: 27
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Oonder is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Draw lenghts for super recurves

Another thing iv come to wonder about is the max DL .
As i would imagin a max DL for any combination would be the point that when passed,
limb failure can occurre and the warrenty is upheld. That would
offcourse also meen that not going past the Max DL, even if i draw just
A tad under, should be perfectly fine at every draw of the bow, not shortening the limbs lifetime. Seems logical to me, anyone know for sure?
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 03-20-2017, 08:54 PM
oldbohntr oldbohntr is online now
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Cashmere, WA
Posts: 37
Thanks: 10
Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts
oldbohntr is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Draw lenghts for super recurves

Well, I've owned a CH that was too long for me, but never one that was too short. I would certainly think the upper limit of Borders "recommended draw length" is base on the point where the limbs begin to stack(ie, the "flat spot" turns upward, so to speak.)
That's not the same as the limit you can draw w/o risking destruction! I draw 28-1/2 when I'm doing it right. I shoot both 17 and 19" risers with medium limbs. I never expect to approach your "max" draw length.

But, to accept that there is such a thing, that even the bowyer would know what it is, and that drawing "a tad under" would protect the bow from failure, is certainly NOT logical. Some things can be estimated by testing: the load limit on a ladder, for instance. My consumer mentality tells me that if I weight 221 #, I should be safely able to climb that 225# rated ladder as many times as I want, and it should NOT fail me. I don't think anyone can expect a bow limb to be drawn to within a gnat's eyebrow of it's
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
draw, lenghts, recurves, super

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:39 PM.



Design By: Miner Skinz.com
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
PBCustom Strings 2004