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Old 02-16-2017, 12:53 AM
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But how much pain is okay? I started shooting my longbow regularly for short periods of time. To get used to the draw weight. After shooting it my back muscles ache, but my arm muscles don't. So I guess that's a good sign.

I also feel the bony tips of my shoulders ache. Where the tendons are attached. How bad is this? They hurt when I pull my shoulders back.

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I'm not an MD, but for myself, I would be worried about anything other than muscular pain, or the odd arm strike.
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Also, if your bow is doing that to you, you are overbowed. It is ideal to have a bunch of bow weights, some of which push your raw strength, but those bows are not your shooters, or you could maybe shoot them a few shots a day with control, but certainly not a lot.
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I have been shooting it comfortably this summer. But I've started on a form with a lot less movement than in clout shooting. And I've only shot my 30# bow all autumn and winter season.
Maybe I'm just overdoing it?

I may have to clarify. It's not an: oh my G, my shoulders are falling off! kind of pain. It's also not a bone ache.

Any training tips are welcome too.

I know I'm overbowed at the moment. This is the bow I got from Phil and I really want to learn to shoot it. I have considered having it reduced but I'm scared to hand it over to a different bowyer than Pip.

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I have been shooting it comfortably this summer. But I've started on a form with a lot less movement than in clout shooting. And I've only shot my 30# bow all autumn and winter season.
Maybe I'm just overdoing it?

I may have to clarify. It's not an: oh my G, my shoulders are falling off! kind of pain. It's also not a bone ache.

Any training tips are welcome too.

I know I'm overbowed at the moment. This is the bow I got from Phil and I really want to learn to shoot it. I have considered having it reduced but I'm scared to hand it over to a different bowyer than Pip.

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I find that 3/4 of an hour thorough stretching, before I draw a bow, does my manifests aches & pains wonder !

Without it . . . . I am fit for the scrap heap . . .

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Default Re: No pain no gain?

I would take 7 days off completely, and then do what every you are doing on alternate days. If your still hurting after 24 hours of rest , then it might be more than muscles.
I'm pretty big on doorway stretches right now.

Thats how I try and approach not getting hurt. As with everything YMMV and TMAINUIA (Take My Advice, Im Not Using It Anyway).
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Thank you bark eater. I think I might have been a tad too enthusiastic haha. And the: oh it's going great... just one more arrow, I swear.... is also something to watch out for.

Alternating days may be a great solution as is stretching. I do exercise before shooting, but probably not enough.
I have a clout shoot on Saturday and I'm looking forward to it so much. So I'm going to stop for now and hopefully be painless on Saturday. After that the range has a two week stop because of carnaval.

When using the 'rolling motion' when drawing this bow I have less trouble with it.



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I have been shooting light bows and I still beat up after practicing. I have not shot in almost two weeks because I got sick and was teaching climbing last weekend. I have to see how it feels this weekend. I am hoping that the rest pays off. It did not help that I shot 66 field targets a couple of weekends ago.
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If Im doing anything active including shooting a bow when I feel my tendons hurt I shut it down immediatly.

I think you strengthen tendons through use - but if they get inflamed I feel it always leaves you farther behind.
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I would also lay off for a few days. Then use your bow as an excerise tool by drawing to anchor and relaxing part way, hold say 5sec., relax a little more and repeat hold. Do this a few times every other day to start. Do BOTH arms, both arms and their back muscles need strength. As you get stronger you will hold longer and do more reps. I learned this years ago from a VHS made by Price Albert. He was a body builder besides an archer.

Another simple excerise is old fashion push-ups. When I was a lot younger I shot 80# bows. I would do sets of push-ups in the morning and at bedtime to maintain and build muscle.
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One thing I've noticed from shooting a 15lb bow, is that its easy on the back to shoot 60+ shots but my rotator cuffs still feel like I was pulling 30lbs. I figure with the bow arm at least I'm doing about the same amount of "work" holding a bow steady. I'm started messing around with Indian clubs so that's probably part of it..
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Pain is generally a bad sign. Sore is a different problem.
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Woke up painless today. So that's good news.

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I rest my case.

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Saturday, I woke up with back pains after not shooting for three days. But after the day of clout shooting, all my pains were gone. I guess stress about my shoulders made my muscles seize up. I shot my 30# bow and played around with the 45# bow. My husband and I have decided to get another lighter longbow for allround shooting and keep the heavier bow for playing outside. Having it reduced just doesn't feel right.

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