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Old 04-19-2017, 09:46 AM
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Default Good video from Don R. with coach Lee, on the B.E.S.T system.

John M. Posted this video on the AT FITA forum and I thought it had lots of really good information and visuals.
Since we are always getting form questions that can be difficult to answer in type alone I thought this video was worth posting here on TT as it does a great job of showing and explaining the mechanicals involved with archery and the body.

https://youtu.be/dTFHHgLKCA0


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Default Re: Good video from Don R. with coach Lee, on the B.E.S.T system.

Thx for posting

Anxious to watch it
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Default Re: Good video from Don R. with coach Lee, on the B.E.S.T system.

Sure thing Joe, I know you understand more about biomechanics then many archers who don't cross over to the weightlifting, cross training side, so thought the video might be beneficial or at least educational for some new and old archers alike.
I hardly ever see trad archers pre drawing, yet the video does a good job of explaining the importance as well as offering a visual of the muscle movement and how it effects correct alignment. Such a simple thing, but it's obviously often missed and easily overlooked.
Again, just thought it was a well done and worth sharing.

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Default Re: Good video from Don R. with coach Lee, on the B.E.S.T system.

Thanks for the video link!

I recently bought a book by Kisik Lee (author of the BEST shooting style), "Total Archery: Inside the Archer".

What a great read. I'm slowly working chapter by chapter and the video link is a great supplement.
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That video is gold. What a great addition to Total Archery book.

Awesome.
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Default Re: Good video from Don R. with coach Lee, on the B.E.S.T system.

This is an EXCELLENT video. I will definitely watch and rewatch this one many times.
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Default Re: Good video from Don R. with coach Lee, on the B.E.S.T system.

Watched the first part of this video this morning over coffee and gave this shot sequence a try, and for the brief period I could maintain mental focus all was right with the world. I'm going put this video into heavy rotation. Thanks for for posting this GCB.
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Default Re: Good video from Don R. with coach Lee, on the B.E.S.T system.

thanks for the video. Poor Stephanie looked like she wanted to be doing anything but shooting a bow.
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Thank you for posting this. I am finding it really very informative.
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Default Re: Good video from Don R. with coach Lee, on the B.E.S.T system.

Check this out:

http://www.kslinternationalarchery.c...dr_English.pdf

Its kind of interesting to see that some parts of what I try and keep the corpse from doing, is just the corpse trying to be biometrical correct.
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Default Re: Good video from Don R. with coach Lee, on the B.E.S.T system.

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Check this out:

http://www.kslinternationalarchery.c...dr_English.pdf

Its kind of interesting to see that some parts of what I try and keep the corpse from doing, is just the corpse trying to be biometrical correct.
That explains his unusual twist in his draw. I think the author marked the picture backwards though as his bow is clearly pointed to left of target pre draw and being right handed the bow turns from left to right during his alignment.
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http://www.kslinternationalarchery.c...dr_English.pdf

Its kind of interesting to see that some parts of what I try and keep the corpse from doing, is just the corpse trying to be biometrical correct.
Swing draw? Suppose G. Fred got to him? lol
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That was great. Thanks for posting.
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Default Re: Good video from Don R. with coach Lee, on the B.E.S.T system.

By the way, Don Rabska is the person who coached Sandy McCain when she was attempting to cross over and make the Olympic team. Don's method is what Sandy has been teaching me.
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Default Re: Good video from Don R. with coach Lee, on the B.E.S.T system.

I tried the movement in that latter video. Part of it seemed to be mainly to keep the bowsight, stabilizers and sideways bow hand out of the line of sight. Well, I don't use any of those, so I did not need that. What I did find useful was raising both hands up to nose height during the draw. Coach Lee's earlier writing advocated a low draw to engage large back muscles. I found this newer method he has advocated for a year or so places the string side elbow higher than the final position so that during the draw it moves downward as well as back and around. This is somewhat like the elbow movement of Japanese traditional Yumi archery where the draw starts very high, above the head, and moves far down and behind the head.

The first time I tried the nose high draw I was at 20 yards and my arrows went six inches high!! What is up with that?? Well, it was winter and I had been shooting at short range. My draw had become too short.

This has happened to me in other winters, shooting at 20 yards trying to hang with the university team shooting my longbow against their Olympic rigs. (I can sometimes catch one of them with my bare recurve shot instinctively, but with the longbow it is harder.) One day after a couple of weeks of this I stepped over to the 50 yard target and shot my first arrow into the dirt. My draw had gotten short.

The point of this meandering missive is that the nose high draw helps get the scapula and thus the elbow and all connected to it, into the right position.

I don't do it all the time, but I do it now and then to help me find the feel of correct scapula position. After a several week layoff due to foul weather I used it while warming up last Sunday. Afterwards I was able hit some x rings and 5 spots now and then out to 40 yards despite being out of practice. So, I think the nose high draw is a good training aid and might help some of us all the time. - lbg
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