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5K views 35 replies 28 participants last post by  Hank D Thoreau 
#1 ·
The normal rule it cock feather out from the window.

How many of you have tried cock feather in?

how many dont follow the cock feather out convention?

Cock feather diagonal?
 
#12 ·
Out, usually, as this is how I was taught like 45 years ago. Conventional wisdom is that cock feather out ensures that the fletch clears the riser. But recently I experimented both ways and could not tell the deference. I believe that if you are shooting an arrow with the proper dynamic spine that the aft end of the arrow bends away from the riser due to paradox.

Max
 
#14 ·
Cock feather in when off the shelf, out with rest and plunger. Yes technically it should not matter when properly tuned. However cock feather in allows me to tune to a lower nock height without hen feather interference with the shelf. Gives me just that little bit more reach before I'm gapping above the target.
 
#17 ·
Fentiger, don't see much sense, or logic in shooting a shaft in a manner I don't plan on doing on a regular basis, of course unless I go bowfishing, then I might.:)
 
#18 ·
Bogen I agree with that...I think ppl are shooting arrows that are too stiff becuase they are hung up on either the length of the arrow HAVING TO BE such and such or the TIP WEIGHT having to be such and such.

I try to use the same tip weights but I don't really care so much as getting a good flying arrow.

Jer
 
#23 ·
I shoot an Excel riser off the shelf with a felt sticky pad for furniture legs on the riser. Shooting thu paper I had a consistant tear high of about 2 inchs, no matter where I put the knock. I turned the cock feather up and I have PERFECT hole. I also had a felt sticky on the side plate, and had a slight tear right. I took it off and put paper thin mole skin. That fixed the tear right. I thought an Excel was a good bit past center and I would need about a 1/4 inch on side plate, but with thin mole skin on side plate and cock feather up, I get a PERFECT HOLE! I have only been shooting TRAD for 2 months, and I am having a BALL! Here is my setup.

21 inch Excel riser
Black Max Carbon limbs med length
41#@29
arrows, GT 3555, 150 tip
2 fingers under
insinctive
 
#25 ·
Sid,

cock or hen feather down is not just a compound thing. It works very well with recurve bows and was the only configuration that worked when shooting low profile plastic vanes off the shelf. I tested the set-up with foot powder and the vanes were not touching. That was back in the day.

Recently Werner Beiter (the nock guy) did a lot of high speed filming to show exactly that. Check out the following video clip:

http://www.wernerbeiter.com/bilder/produkte/videos/PfeilflugInternet.wmv

The second part of the video shows the arrow diving into the rest because the limbs don't work in sychronisation.

Blacky
 
#36 ·
Sid,

cock or hen feather down is not just a compound thing. It works very well with recurve bows and was the only configuration that worked when shooting low profile plastic vanes off the shelf.
Blacky
I found the same with plastic vanes. I have not shot off the shelf enough to have a strong opinion but I have definitely been able to fix some problems by changing to cock feather in. I have not tried down since the nocks on my woodies are glued on which leaves me only two choices. I only shot vanes off the shelf until I got my woodies. This is an interesting discussion. It should be a poll.
 
#26 ·
I'm with Blacky on this one. Y config off a wire rest and plunger seems to get the best flight for me with vanes or feathers.
Recently decided to go back to feathers for 3D, lose some weight on the back of the shaft and gain some forgiveness.

-Grant
 
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